Cherokee Star- Writing contests promises and poetry scams

       Your blog has really come alive with this issue of the contests promises of books being published.   I could not find any books that had already been printed (with the exception of (Elias Tobias) below.   I would love to read others poems on your blog.   Most of the disappointing publishing companies prey on our nativity and count on our vulnerability.   The Victoria Strauss Eber & Wein: Another VANITY Anthology Scheme, seems to be quite informative.

     As always, when some contest’s advertise, they will say, “The entry’s must adhere to all the contest rules, that has a habit creating a false impression leaving us to blindsided.      Eber & Wein Publishing, 597 S. Main ST., Shrewsbury, PA 17361 is copyrighted with the US Library of Congress as a compilation.
      Reading through many of the Compilations, I get the distinct feeling that just about any one can do the same as they have.
      Any thing can be compiled from any of the Presidents notes/writings, to the compilations of Paranormal happenings even the occult compilations of happenings.   In other words, If I wanted to compile a cook book of recipes, I could have it copyrighted with the US Library of Congress, Which appeared to have begun as an effort to compile the notes and laws of Congress. So henceforth (From This Time On) You have the US Library of Congress with any and all of the compilations=(Compile together in a single book).   I have read many negative reports from people who have sent to many different publishing co. Moneys to purchase books/Anthology to be printed in (Verses & Visions) also one called (The Wishing Well) then another called (Immortal Verses), on and on.   Your blog on the Poetry Contest, is just bearly scratching the surface of the questionable activities by their company’s.

     One I read from May 12, 2004,

      (Common Sense on Compilation copyright- The Dorothy Parker Case.) Poetry.com)

       If they publish the book as a compilation with the US Library of Congress, that does not mean they have to publish it with Barnes and Nobles, etc. or anywhere, if you pay $49.99+S&H, they should be obligated to send you a personal copy.   But, in the complaints, I could not find any one after months and months of waiting, who had received a single copy in years.
      If others would do their follow-up research, I am sure they may come to the same conclusion.   They may very well receive a book with their poem in side.   If they already sent money, then we can be sure they/Eber & Wein have enough to print the required amount, if you used a credit card, you should be able to get a refund, unless you want to wait and see..
      
      Writer Beware, a publishing industry watchdog group sponsored by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, shines a light into the dark corners of the shadow-world of literary scams, schemes, and pitfalls.
  Last November, readers of, among others, Parade Magazine and Cardmaker Magazine saw an announcement for a free “open amateur .  Poems of “24 lines or less” could be sent to a New York … in a volume of contemporary poetry called Verses and Visions, and in … Victoria Strauss — Judge Extends Google Book Sett…
       
      Poetry Credits A Publishing History- Elias Tobias
“The Beauty of Life” published under the alias of Elias Tobias in Verses and Visions by Eber & Wein Publishing, Shrewsbury, PA, summer
2009.
      “A Juicy Poem” was published in Favourite Memories anthology by Noble House of New York, London and Paris, September, 2008

 

       Writers Warnings! Poetry Scams- Poetry.com – Noble House Publishers … (Type into search)      Poetry Scams
 

      See Sid Kirchheimer article that looks at poetry.com. http://www.aarp.org/bulletin/consum er/scam_poetry.html

      Internationally-known poet Elias Tobias has set a goal of 2.5 million daily unique visitors by January 2010 on his web site, The World of Words by Elias Tobias. Already the web blog has reached 2.5 million daily page views and more than one million unique visitors a day.  contact@eliastobias.net

Elias Tobias » Poetry Credits

      Charlie Hughes, editor of Wind Magazine, maintains a webpage that provides useful information on vanity anthologies. http://www.windpub.com/literary.scams/ripoffs.htm
      Arno talks about his experience with poetry.com in his journal of stupidities. http://www.poetryin-e-motion.com/
      PoetryNotcom is a website with detailed complaints against Poetry.com, vanity press. http://poetrynotcom.tripod.com/

      Author-Me hosts a poetry scam warning page. www.author-me.com/poetryscams.htm

      Poetry scam disappoints literary hopefuls. http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1605052.htm

      Noble House and Poetry.com publishing information http://www.utmostchristianwriters.com/resources/noble.php

        (Links to follow to get further info concerning Scams.) Links: (Type in any of these into Search)
      Comments…
      I have had first hand experience with the vanity press poetry. com. In 2000, I sent one of my poems “Angel in Heaven” to Poetry dot com’s contest and received their notification that I would be published in an anthology to be . – Poetry.com – Noble House Publishers – International Library of Poetry – Poetry Contest Warning April 2009 Newsletter 
       

      (Links to follow to get further info concerning Scams.) Links:

(Type in any of these into Search)
      Comments…
      I have had first hand experience with the vanity press poetry. com. In 2000, I sent one of my poems “Angel in Heaven” to Poetry dot com’s contest and received their notification that I would be published in an anthology to be . – Poetry.com – Noble House Publishers – International Library of Poetry – Poetry Contest Warning April 2009 Newsletter 
       
     April 2009 Newsletter 
     
      (Type in any of these into Search)
      Comments…
      I have had first hand experience with the vanity press poetry. com. In 2000, I sent one of my poems “Angel in Heaven” to Poetry dot com’s contest and received their notification that I would be published in an anthology to be . – Poetry.com – Noble House Publishers – International Library of Poetry – Poetry Contest Warning
      Elias Tobias » 60 favorite poems

 

      Have you been a victim? Share your story of poetry.com/ Noble House Publishing with us to help us better protect poets. http://www.todayswoman.net/feedback.html

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      Search the internet for poetry scams      Poetry.com
1Poetry Plaza
Owings Mills, MD 21117
Phone 410-356-2000

       is NOT affiliated with poetry.com, International Library of Poetry, Noble House Publishing, or the International Society of Poets (ISP). American Literary Press, and Noble House imprint, are not associated in any way with Watermark Press, International Library of Poetry, Noble House Publishers in the United Kingdom.

       Aka’s to watch out for and not confuse them with the legitimate co’s. Writer Beware Blogs!: Victoria Strauss — Eber & Wein: Another Vanity Anthology… (Type into search) have been deceiving Poets. The show 20-20 did a documentary in 1998…

      If you have submitted poetry to the International Library of Poetry (ILP), also known as the National Library of Poetry, Poetry. com, the International Society of Poets, the International Poetry Hall of Fame, or Watermark Press and wish to file a complaint you may contact

       The Better Business Bureau of Greater Maryland, Inc.
Attn: Jerry Duncan, Director of Complaints
2100 Huntington Avenue
Baltimore, MD 21211-3215

      You may also file complaints online at:
http://complaints.bbb.org

      The National Library of Poetry is also known by the following names:

International Library of Poetry

Poetry.com

International Society of Poets

International Poetry Hall of Fame

Watermark Press

League of American Poets

      Disclaimer: Noble House, the hardbound book division and imprint of American Literary Press is NOT affiliated with poetry.com, International Library of Poetry, Noble House Publishing, or the International Society of Poets (ISP). American Literary Press, and Noble House imprint, are not associated in any way with Watermark Press, International Library of Poetry, Noble House Publishers in the United Kingdom.

      If you are dissatisfied with your international Library of Poetry anthology, return it to them and request they refund your money as they guarantee.

      The general censes with most of the publishing companies victims/clients is: If you do not purchase the book, your poem will be post pone until the next anthology.   If they publish the work that they promised, then it does not make them a scam.   I did not see any thing other than Elias Tobias, which is a pen name.  

       Cherokee Star

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  1. c.holmes09@yahoo.com

    I am on this site because today in the mail I received a letter from a company called EBER & WEIN PUBLISHING. The letter said that they very much liked my poem about my dying mother and want to put it in a book called Verses and Visions. Is this a scam or what? Does anyone know? If you do could you let me know? I was scammed by poetry.com and lost money so I do not need for that to happen again. If you have any info please get back to me.
    Thank-you
    C.Holmes

  2. Hi C. Homes,
    In response to your comment, I googled EBER & WEIN PUBLISHING and the first page that came up had the following blog:

    Tuesday, March 17, 2009
    Victoria Strauss — Eber & Wein: Another Vanity Anthology Scheme
    Last November, readers of, among others, Parade Magazine and Cardmaker Magazine saw an announcement for a free “open amateur poetry contest”. Poems of “24 lines or less” could be sent to a New York City address, and would then be eligible for $100,000 in prizes. A perk of entering: all poets would receive a “personal critique” of their poem.

    There were warning signs. For one thing, the organization or company conducting the contest was not identified. Entering contests when you can’t verify who’s behind them is a major no-no, not just because you have no way to judge the contest’s prestige, but because you can’t assess its honesty. (Many people, unfortunately, seem to have assumed that because the publication where they found the contest announcement was reputable, the contest was reputable too.)

    For another, short poems and big-money prizes are a hallmark of vanity anthology schemes. These schemes, which are legion, all work pretty much the same way: Ads announce a free poetry contest. Everyone who enters is “selected” as a semi-finalist, which qualifies them to be published in an anthology–and also to buy various of the company’s products. Sometimes publication is contingent upon purchase, sometimes it’s “optional”–but either way, author purchases are the main, if not the only, source of sales for these anthologies, which are neither marketed nor publicized, and never cast a shadow on a bookstore shelf. Because there’s no editorial screening, publication in a vanity anthology is not a real writing credit–in fact, it can be a negative writing credit, since these schemes are widely known. If you list one on your writing resume, many people will conclude that you are, at best, gullible.

    Last week, poets who entered the contest began hearing back, and surprise, surprise: it’s definitely a vanity anthology scheme. Their responses came from Eber & Wein Publishing, located not in Manhattan, but in Shrewsbury, PA. I reproduce the letter in full, because it is such a classic piece of scheme-speak, complete with appeals to God:

    Dear [name redacted],

    Thank-you for sharing your poem with us. You’ve penned a wonderful verse, and I am excited to inform you that your poem has advanced to the semi-final round of the National Amateur Poetry Competition. Please take a few minutes to fill in the Official Contest Entry Form and return it in the enclosed self-addressed envelope. Within the next few months, we will award 126 cash and gift prizes; a list of prizes is included in the contest rules. We’re looking forward to announcing the grand prize winner of $2,500.00 and feel there is a good chance it could be you.

    As a semi-finalist, you’ve earned the honor of being published in a volume of contemporary poetry called Verses and Visions, and in a few weeks you will receive an Author’s Proof. Please proofread it, make any corrections your poem, and return it to us if you wish to have your poem included in this collection. At this time, you will receive a brief critique of your poem from the editor who has been assigned to you.

    Verses and Visions is a multi-volume collection of new and notable poets from around the world that will be available for sale on Amazon.com and the Barnes and Noble web site. This is a unique opportunity for you to receive a world-wide audience for your poetry. We’ve also included a form for you to tell us a little bit about yourself and your poetry; it is important to take this opportunity to tell the reader what inspired your writing. The statement will be printed directly below your poem. There is a small fee for this service; however, it is not necessary to have a statement included.

    If you wish to purchase a copy of Verses and Visions now, we’ve included a pre-publication discount order form. By placing your order now you’ll receive a $10.00 contributor’s pre-publication discount. Please note we’ve selected your poem for publication because we feel it makes an important contribution to this volume. There is no need to make a purchase, and your poem may still be published even if you do not purchase a book. If you choose to own a copy of Verses and Visions and are not completely satisfied upon its arrival, then we will refund your purchase immediately.

    Once again, congratulations, and may God bless your home and family. We hope you’ll continue writing and reading poetry. Today there are many option for publishing your poetry, and we appreciate that your considering Eber & Wein.

    Sincerely,
    John T. Eber Sr.
    Managing Editor

    Cost for Verses and Visions: $49.95.

    At least with the established vanity anthology companies, such as the gigantic Poetry.com, the prizes really are paid out, and you can be certain of receiving the anthology (or other products, such as a plaque with your poem mounted on it) if you order it. Poetry.com, Iliad Press, Sparrowgrass Poetry Forum, The Amherst Society, and many others have been around for decades, in part because they grasp the principle that so many purveyors of literary schemes fail to comprehend: you can sucker people out of their money, but if you want to stay in business, you’ve got to give them something in return.

    Eber & Wein, on the other hand, does not appear to have been around for more than a millisecond in schemer time. This cached version (the original listing has expired) of its incorporation announcement reveals that it filed incorporation articles on January 20, 2009–nearly two months after the contest ad ran.

    Of course, Eber & Wein may not be as new-minted as it seems. Existing vanity anthologizers sometimes expand or branch out out under new names, a la the endlessly-replicating Who’s Who operations. Right now, though, there’s no way to tell–and thus no way to judge Eber & Wein’s track record of product delivery. Of the many reasons to avoid sending money to this company, that’s one of the biggies, in my opinion.

    Note from Randy: So judge for yourself. Google and do your own searching. Thanks Randy

  3. Penelope

    I got the very same letter but the book doesn’t say Verses and Visions, instead it says Endless Horizons…?

  4. Farm_Nestor

    I received a letter today from Eber and Wein stating I won 2nd place in their poetry contest and a $100 check with no conditions or disclaimer on the back. What do you think? Should I cash it???
    Let me know your thoughts. If it clears, then maybe they have succumbed to the demands of the poetry writing public…LOL.

  5. Peter Arborgast

    It appears they have awarded all the prizes they claim to award. I wasn’t a winner but I did purchase a book. I received it last month and admit it is very nice. I am proud of my poem and I like having something tangible to show others what I’ve done. I am not good enough yet to be published with a mainstream publisher but I am working on it. All your information you reported appears to be wrong. Why don’t you remove it? Or at least corrected it?

  6. “A rose by any other name…NOT”
    I have several of this company’s books, under various titles. They are, indeed, attractively bound. However, my poem is ALWAYS the first entry: rather embarrassing, isn’t it?
    Last year I didn’t send one.
    Recently, I did submit a poem to these same people with their new name and the not surprising news that I am now a semi-finalist. All I’d have to do is send them some money, etc.
    I’ve decided to pass.

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